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About Bulbapedia

There is something i need to ask before we leave. It seems most of you have bulbapedia accounts ready. Anyway, whenever i try to send a confirmation account email, it doesn't show up. No junk, no deleted emails, nothing. I tried resending multiple times but it didnt do anything. I cant ask them, because i dont have a confirmed email. So what do i do? Finnodile (talk) 05:23, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't have an answer, but this definitely seems like something that should be addressed before possibly moving to Bulbapedia. New users having potential issues signing up with no way to troubleshoot and no channels for troubleshooting is a huge problem. Blue Banana whotookthisname (talk) 13:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey there. Unfortunately, we are not Bulbagarden support wiki and so we do not provide support for Bulbagarden sites. I recommend asking on Bulbagarden's Discord server.

If we decide to move to Bulbagarden (which seems to be very unlikely), we would not be using Bulbagarden accounts. --TreeIsLife (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yellow Allay

I've noticed that the wiki has no page for the yellow allay. It does no exist in vanila minecraft, but it exists in the launcher loading screen and Minecraft Legends. May I create a page for it?Vdiu (talk) 07:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. I believe the page Minecraft Legends:Allay is what your looking for. Please help improve the article if you can! IiConsumed (talk) 07:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

No, that is the page for allays in Minecraft Legends. I am proposing a seperate page for the Yellow Allay in particular, because it also appears in the loading screen for the launcher. Vdiu (talk) 14:18, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

A page for the yellow allay is not needed as it is already documented in the legends allay page PotatoMan3525463 (talk) 14:25, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

When is the wiki forking?

And how will the wiki be affected? I'm asking because filter still redirects to the wiki's Mastodon server. TheTrubbleMushroom (talk) 02:19, August 27, 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I have the same question. Its been about 20 days and nothing has happened. Asdfas87876 (talk) 00:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The fork is going on behind the scenes and we're making good progress, unfortunately there isn't anything that we can publicly share at the moment. –Sonicwave ^talk 04:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Is that why it took so long for a reply? TheTrubbleMushroom (talk) 05:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The thing that would be helpful to know is the particular moment when all of the info/edits/pages/files/user pages gets downloaded and copied over to the new wiki, the moment when our edits here stop applying to the new wiki. I would think there might be a lag time from when all of the wiki data here is downloaded to be copied to the new wiki, before the announcements that the new wiki is live and editing opens up on the new wiki. Obviosuly for some templates/extensions that are replaced, this wouldn't apply. Delvin4519 (talk) 19:46, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The forked wiki is now live, please see this discussion page for details. –Sonicwave ^talk 18:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

How was this notification added?

"MINECRAFT WIKI

Follow the Minecraft Wiki on Discord or our social media pages!"

I noticed a new custom notification window on the bottom left of the screen at this wiki. It invites to join the wiki discord and/or other wiki social media pages. I'm also an admin at a wiki and I'd just like to know more about this. I've seen the same kind of notification from Fandom, but never a custom one that seems to have been made by a wiki. GMRE (talk) 16:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

That notification is a sitenotice, admins can edit the wiki's sitenotice at MediaWiki:Sitenotice. - Harristic (talk) 17:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

SLScool - Request for Adminship

I am requesting administrator rights. I—

I was going to elaborate, but it would seem I am already an administrator (and a bureaucrat) and therefore do not need to. Oh, well. Maybe next time. SLScool 03:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

 Oppose. You are a power-hungry traitor who's just here as a spy for the forked wiki.

Let's start from the beginning, shall we? You joined the Fandom Minecraft Wiki at the beginning of March, 2017, but you didn't join the Gamepedia Minecraft Wiki until Halloween. We shall soon see why. When Fandom bought Gamepedia, the wikis merged, and you apparently got everyone to agree "that being an admin on minecraft-archive meant something, and it would be a supporting factor if an admin from there applied to be an admin on the Gamepedia Minecraft Wiki." Congratulations: you must have been so proud when you secured that promise. I honestly don't know how you did it.

You edited on and off for the next six years. Suddenly, you stopped! On the tenth of June, you made your last edit for a long time. A few days later, you claimed you were too "busy or sleeping almost 24/7" to edit, and you left the Discord server entirely. The wiki started a forking discussion only two weeks after you left the Discord server. You must have known this would happen. And when you said you were too busy to edit, you said you'd return at the end of July. Guess what else happened at the end of July? That's right: the forking discussion ended. You were planning all along to come back when the fork discussion ended. Except it didn't all go according to plan, because there was another round of discussion. Lucky for you, no one noticed you were gone for longer than originally planned, and you came back to the Discord server when that second round of discussion ended. So why did you leave and come back? You and I know the truth. It's because you wanted to disassociate yourself from the fork. If you weren't in the server, and if you didn't talk in the on-wiki fork vote, then there's no way you could possibly be supporting the fork. This would be essential later on. Meanwhile, you may have returned to the server in August, but you did nothing on the wiki until the day the wiki forked. That day, you reverted so much vandalism, it filled the first page of your contributions. You sure looked like a real active editor. That, too, would be essential later on.

But that's not even the worst part. The worst part is that you actually conspired with the other admins. You said so yourself in #fork when you said "Following up from what I said in the private channel: I'll post my request for adminship for the Fandom wiki in about twelve hours. The forking policy should allow a bureaucrat to promote me." Here's what I think happened: a long time ago, the admins of the Minecraft Wiki decided the wiki needed to fork from Fandom. Recognizing the need for someone to remain behind and ensure the Fandom wiki never revived, they faced a challenge as nobody was willing to take on that responsibility because they all wanted to leave Fandom. The solution were identify an individual who could operate on Fandom, carry out their directives covertly, and avoid detection by Fandom. Enter you - the perfect candidate. You were an admin on the Fandom Minecraft Wiki, you'd been around for many years, and if you racked up a bunch of edits right before you applied so you'd look active, no one would think twice if they made you an admin. You started on Fandom, you're a Star, and if you did not involve yourself in the forking discussions, no one would suspect your secret alignment with the forkers. So, they must have struck a deal with you: you do everything I pointed out the previous paragraph and you stay on Fandom after the fork, and you get to be admin. Corruption at its finest.

And then there was how you pitifully tried to cover your tracks. First, you enlisted magiczocker to promote you. You instructed him to obscure his activities by assigning himself a temporary blot flag for a day, ensuring it wouldn't appear in the change logs. Seriously? Exploiting magiczocker's SOAP powers for evil? (For those who don't know: magiczocker is in the volunteer group SOAP, enabling him to grant himself a bot flag at will, but it's supposed to be for silently cleaning up vandalism!) Of course, because you aren't a complete idiot, you realized it would raise suspicions if people discovered you as a bureaucrat without an application, so you made one. If you can even call it an application. "I am requesting administrator rights. I was going to elaborate, but it would seem I am already an administrator (and a bureaucrat) and therefore do not need to." All in one edit. Talk about a clumsy attempt at covering your tracks!

You felt you had to do all this because you knew you weren't good enough to admin on your own merits. Despite its flawed leadership, the Gamepedia wiki is so close to perfect. Compared to that, the Fandom wiki is garbage. You're not good enough for such a great wiki, but on a trash wiki, you stand a chance. You realized this, so you joined Fandom first and didn't join Gamepedia until you were an admin on Fandom. You made 6000 edits to the Fandom wiki in four years, but you made less than a thousand to the Gamepedia wiki in six. You were so prolific on Fandom, but so hesistant on Gamepedia. Just take a look at how often you edited on both wikis and see for yourself.

In summary: you secured a benefit from the crossover, and then you said you were busy and stopped editing, and then the fork discussions began in earnest, and then you chatted secretly with the admins, and then you waited until the fork happened to apply, and then they tried to secretly promote you, and then you pretended to actually apply? Yeah, you're clearly just a power-hungry traitor, and the forking admins were all too happy to oblige since they could leave while you stayed behind as their mole.

I hope Fandom demotes you and gblocks you, or else this wiki is doomed, and I hope you suffer for your greed.

TackBullTree (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Seek employment. - Harristic (talk) 09:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@TackBullTree: Instead of using a sock account, you should have used your main account. --TreeIsLife (talk) 15:31, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello there. I'm not going to address every single point raised here individually. All I will say is that as far as I'm concerned, there is no super secret plan at play. The wiki was looking for new admins, and SLSCool happened to step up and it was a good fit. If there is indeed some crazy power play move in motion, then shame on me. But as far as I know, there is no reason to not trust SLSCool with the considerable task of being an admin on this wiki. --Itsjieyang (talk) 15:48, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Fandom will supervise him, so you don't need to worry about him doing things like ignoring vandalism.--AblazeVase69188 (Talk | Contribs) 01:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

 Support. As a former admin here myself (former because we've been de-sysopped), this Fandom Wiki does need admins to fill the void. I don't see any nefarious things going on here. Amatulic (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Moving from Fandom was a horrible decision

Do you realize how many vandals will take advantage of the situation? You're endangering the wiki. GoyangiStudios (talk) 21:26, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't think ignoring the vast majority of Minecraft and editorial community which came in favor of forking is a horrible decision, in fact, I think it's the only decision an editorial community can make in situation they ask about it and get the results they got while still staying a community project that serves the Minecraft community. So far the wiki is kept from vandalism pretty well by various people, but if you want to keep using Minecraft Wiki in all its glory I really do recommend moving with a fork to a new wiki. Since seemingly almost 100% of editorial community moved, there isn't much of a point to sticking on resource which will eventually degrade and get outdated. Frisk (talk) 🐐🧼 21:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

In fact, fandom wiki is already regarded as "no longer supported", meaning no admin has the obligation to be in charge of any vandalism HERE. The only problem is advertising the Minecraft community to visit the new wiki from now on, rather than worrying about an abandoned site.SorajimaAsugawa (talk) 10:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

In fact, in accordance with the forking policy, all administrators here (like me) have been de-sysopped. So we cannot do anything anyway. I check in every once in a while, but my attention is now on censored URL of new wiki, which is very active and admittedly has a nicer feel to it. I enjoy the Minecraft Wiki again after being somewhat burned out. I was initially against forking, but now I think it was a good decision seeing how active the community is. Just having the {{reply}} and {{ping}} templates working to notify people of replies is really helpful and efficient. They haven't worked on this wiki in years. Amatulic (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Staying at Fandom is a more horrible decision.--AblazeVase69188 (Talk | Contribs) 01:17, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Please recreate these pages

• Java Edition 23w14a
• Java Edition 23w17a

--Noisy miner (talk) 06:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)